tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post2273663685116109581..comments2023-10-04T08:13:56.965-04:00Comments on redjenny: Conserving Racism: The Greening of Hate at Home and AbroadRed Jennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07720489192755635941noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-21332508163586846832008-08-21T20:46:00.000-04:002008-08-21T20:46:00.000-04:00Sure was.It reminded me of some of what's posted a...Sure was.<BR/><BR/>It reminded me of some of what's posted at the London, Ontario Indymedia site, unfortunately. There's a regular poster -- who spreads his posts across various Indymedia sites -- who works scripture citations into very bizarre writing. He goes by "Bobby Meade".Tobanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01002099395262545657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-25848895131224442352008-08-21T19:21:00.000-04:002008-08-21T19:21:00.000-04:00um. that was weirdum. that was weirdRed Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07720489192755635941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-65696936653459126752008-08-21T11:09:00.000-04:002008-08-21T11:09:00.000-04:00CHRISTIANITY@ISTEMPTATION.COMForgiveness is not re...CHRISTIANITY@ISTEMPTATION.COM<BR/>Forgiveness is not reality. It is part of the "Big Lie".<BR/>Attonement is how the gods conduct their business.<BR/>Attonement will ocurr in the next life.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I don't deserve this. After 40 years of being raped by god so they don’t incurr obligation to the disfavored I don't deserve this.<BR/>Tungoogska was 1908.<BR/>2008. I'm Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-28533221580402007132008-08-06T11:21:00.000-04:002008-08-06T11:21:00.000-04:00> (The Middle East *does* have a major populati...> (The Middle East *does* have a major population problem ...<BR/><BR/>(On second thought, I basically was commenting on population issues in Saudi Arabia, but not necessarily elsewhere in the Middle East. I overgeneralized.)Tobanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01002099395262545657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-50959016197925873332008-08-04T13:36:00.000-04:002008-08-04T13:36:00.000-04:00While the US is growing the lowest amount of wheat...While the US is growing the lowest amount of wheat, since 1948, the neo-Malthusians yell about birthrates in India and China. Reactionaries aren't going to blame speculation on the food and energy prices, so they blame the poor.<BR/><BR/>It's no surprise that the enviromental movement, or any movement that is dynamic, has contradictions. Only to reactionaries are things good or bad.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-48139748351295158702008-08-04T12:59:00.000-04:002008-08-04T12:59:00.000-04:00Come to think of it -I suppose I was indirectly ad...Come to think of it -<BR/>I suppose I was indirectly addressing a sort of racism associated with a sort of environmentalism in this blog post -<BR/><A HREF="http://tobanblack.net/blog/?p=301" REL="nofollow">http://tobanblack.net/blog/?p=301</A><BR/><BR/>Some people suggest that oil dependency should be ended (through alternative energy, for instance) so that Middle Easterners don't get money out Tobanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01002099395262545657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-70146314992789806582008-08-04T12:41:00.000-04:002008-08-04T12:41:00.000-04:00Those particular racists may have been at the frin...Those particular racists may have been at the fringe of a fringe in the past, but that could change. I don't think those racists would hijack the environment movement, but their perspective could break away and become part of something else.<BR/><BR/>I think that we'll see environmentalism become pervasive -- as opposed to being a sort of "ism".<BR/><BR/>By the way -<BR/>arguably a form of Tobanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01002099395262545657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-55426580560241224432008-08-04T11:57:00.000-04:002008-08-04T11:57:00.000-04:00They are fringe, and yet there's a LONG history of...They are fringe, and yet there's a LONG history of conservationists being very anti-human - especially against the lower classes of folks. It's not an isolated phenomenon. <BR/><BR/>That's not to say that environmentalists are reactionary or right-wing or racist or whatever. A few are, but most are at least nominally socially progressive, although I would say a lot are pretty elitist. To Red Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07720489192755635941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-50112916015381905412008-08-03T18:42:00.000-04:002008-08-03T18:42:00.000-04:00The problem with Hartmann's article is that the fr...The problem with Hartmann's article is that the fringe anti-immigration faction of the Sierra Club failed to control the organization.<BR/><BR/>So while weird proponents of eugenics may want to infiltrate the environmental movement, they tend to be just that - fringe weirdos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com