tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post6356763748668775279..comments2023-10-04T08:13:56.965-04:00Comments on redjenny: Interesting maps of income and voting patterns in the USARed Jennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07720489192755635941noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-47942301404891970242007-11-07T14:05:00.000-05:002007-11-07T14:05:00.000-05:00The Democrats don't actually represent the left. O...The Democrats don't actually represent the left. Of course we know that. But voting patterns give us a clue to the position of the American working class on the political spectrum. We lefties like to claim things like despite the rightward turn of governments since the 80's, most people would be willing to pay a little more in taxes in order to have improved essential services and financial Red Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07720489192755635941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-42764759909790520832007-11-03T03:44:00.000-04:002007-11-03T03:44:00.000-04:00Does anybody notice which class was decisive? The ...Does anybody notice which class was decisive? The middle class. Why? Because the vast majority of Amerikans are middle class. The GOP were able to capture former New Deal Democrats throughout the US by pitting the numerically dominant labour aristocracy against liberal "elites" and their agenda of racial integration, homosexuality, secularism, feminism, abortion, welfare, affirmative action and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-7157471910036340392007-11-02T17:57:00.000-04:002007-11-02T17:57:00.000-04:00and now we know why george bush doesn't care about...and now we know why george bush doesn't care about poor people. or black people. or iraqi people.Chris Benjaminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00402945887045545024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-44423720611101953732007-11-02T16:24:00.000-04:002007-11-02T16:24:00.000-04:00ugh, that is sad. I understand what you are saying...ugh, that is sad. I understand what you are saying, and I don't disagree with you - not really.<BR/><BR/>However I guess part of the reason these maps interested me was not so much to do with the actual parties but rather the general ideological situated-ness among the population. Blue/Red can more or less mean centre-to-left (ish) and red is like right-to-far-right. Unlike what is portrayed in Red Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07720489192755635941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-71591761804384936612007-11-02T10:44:00.000-04:002007-11-02T10:44:00.000-04:00RJ,My point is that people treat them and their fa...RJ,<BR/>My point is that people treat them and their fake elections as if there is no choice. We have the choice to not see them as the managers of anything. We have the choice to not encourage people to buy into their electoral charades. We have copious opportunities to expose the nature of their game. We can fire all their asses. North Amerikkka is probably the only place on the earth where Dark Daughtahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07461439416312772862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-70698578797751919532007-11-01T21:32:00.000-04:002007-11-01T21:32:00.000-04:00Well, I think we all know the Democrats do not rep...Well, I think we all know the Democrats do not represent the left or the average American - but the Republicans have been using the old populist rhetoric to position themselves as the party of the "regular people". Just like Reform did here in Canada.<BR/><BR/>But that Edwards, now he's a limousine liberal - I mean he's not poor and yet he's talking about doing something about poverty - that's Red Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07720489192755635941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-91136083612535373732007-11-01T15:08:00.000-04:002007-11-01T15:08:00.000-04:00Hi RJ,I didn't understand the maps because I don't...Hi RJ,<BR/>I didn't understand the maps because I don't keep the colours red and blue as indicative of US party politics in my memory banks.<BR/><BR/>Mental note deposited.<BR/><BR/>But once I understood what the maps were about and once I read the comment up above, I had to say that yes, the Republicans cheated.<BR/><BR/>But it's sort of a truism because the people who take part in elections on Dark Daughtahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07461439416312772862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8219664.post-75933111867497042672007-11-01T01:02:00.000-04:002007-11-01T01:02:00.000-04:00Unfortunately poor and working class people, get f...Unfortunately poor and working class people, get fooled into believing the Democrats represent their needs. The Democrats share goals with the Republicans.<BR/><BR/>The Democrats want votes of progressive people like you, not your ideas.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.com